I feel guilty for loving Tauriel because she isn’t in the book, but she’s probably my favourite character from the Hobbit films. She’s a beautiful and brave role model for young girls and I think the love triangle adds something extra into the films that was needed. Also, my hair and complexion is around the same colour as hers and she makes me proud of my natural self.
Meh don’t feel guilty. She’s such a cool character. Besides, so many people aren’t in the books, like Alfrid and Legolas, not to mention most of Bard’s story and family. It’s all good. She’s a great character, and really good for increasing female presence on screen.
We fans of Loki know that genocide is bad. Loki does not, and frankly, we’re not sure where Thor picked it up all of a sudden, but yes we are aware that destroying an entire race is a terrible thing to do.So while you’re on the subject, please do not forget to mention that:
- Thor thought it sounded like a great idea when he was a kid, and was not told otherwise (“a wise king never seeks out war, but he must always be prepared for it” =/= anything at all along the lines of “killing an entire people is bad, kids”)
- Odin himself IS committing genocide against frost giants… slowly. With the Casket gone, their realm is decaying, and they as a people are gradually, horribly dying. This is canon. What Loki would have done was essentially what Odin’s doing, only a hell of a lot quicker.
- Odin’s grandfather committed (or at least attempted, and thought he’d succeeded in) genocide against dark elves, and Odin is A-OK with this.
If you are not prepared to acknowledge all of this as equally terrible, and recognize the inherent hypocrisy in that these characters now condemn LOKI ALONE for this horrible crime the entire family is in the business of committing apparently, then why are you even talking about right and wrong?
I kind of feel like people are just ripping on Loki and his followers because he happens to be the popular thing right now…People always rag on the “in” thing and think they’re somehow like…non-conformist or something by actively opposing it. I dunno…whatever
The way I see it…I would rather people just mind their own business. It is fiction after all….We can like it however we want. I am not hurting anything by liking Loki however I want, in whatever perception that speaks to my mental construct.
Some people love Loki, and try to rationalize or at least understand his actions. Some people hate Loki and think he deserves punishment…It’s all ok to believe what you want of the character. Interpretations vary because human beings vary so much.
I just want people to like what they like, and stop telling people how to be.
I never identified as a part of Loki’s Resistance, I just liked the character and didn’t think much more of what group of the fandom I belonged to. But apparently if I try to delve into his psychology, to figure out why he is the way he is, and if I churn up some interesting, grey area dilemmas that lead me to believe the whole Asgardian family is kind of fucked up (which may or may not have contributed to Loki’s madness)…apparently I am an “apologist”? Or some shit I dunno….and I guess I have no idea what genocide even is??? Or if I do…then I am…ok with it???
I am fairly certain I am incapable of understanding why someone would call me an apologist who justifies murder…I am so unable to wrap my brain around that. You know…FICTION…LOKI IS NOT REAL…so how can I be ok with genocide….when it’s a fictional character in question???
Yeah maybe the psychological profile of Loki that I have constructed for him, in my own head, may be me trying to warp information around my already preconceived notion of how I view him…but…who freaking cares??? It ain’t hurting anyone. Plus, doesn’t EVERYONE do this? Two people can see Ironman or Superman in completely different ways, and argue their viewpoints using surrounding information, and no two ways are the same. But that is OK, because art is always up for interpretation. (People do this in literature, or even theoretical scientific debates like wormholes and shit)
Oh and when someone posts about something you don’t agree with, you don’t have to get all defensive. If someone posts how Loki is a bag of dicks, so what? Does this view point threaten you so much? Does it change how you see Loki? If you still love Loki, just scroll past the post. Don’t get your panties in a bunch.
If you see a post defending Loki and you disagree with it….just scroll past the post. If you honestly still believe Loki is a bad guy, maybe you can make your own post explaining why, WITHOUT resorting to name calling, poking fun at how “stupid” Loki fans are.
People can put up posts explaining how they feel about characters, and offer up some really good points, and it is up to people to read them, become well informed of all the view points, and choose whichever version suits them. Believe it or not, we CAN discuss things without it becoming personal, so to arrive to some sort of truth.
I honestly would hate a world where everyone was forced into thinking so homogeneously…Oh wait…people already do try and pressure that….meh….
Anyways….I just hate these stupid feuds on the internet that kind of kill the fandom for me. It really takes the fun out of it. It’s ok to talk passionately about something, but I feel like you go too far when it just becomes a smear of hatred. This applies to everyone.
Loki Resistance members…do your thing and love it…All others, do your thing and love it….Promote what you love and stop trying to hate on others. Again, this applies to BOTH sides, Loki’s supporters or not…Don’t be assholes. That is the golden rule. We all have our own ways of seeing the world. Again…IT DOESN’T HURT ANYTHING. It’s just a bunch of fans discussing things they like however they see fit…GUH….I don’t understand how this shit could bring about WW3 or whatever…Just stop being assholes, EVERYONE. If you’re an asshole, then you ARE hurting people. But if you just stop these flame wars, then no one is hurt…got it?
It’s called tolerance…maybe we should all incorporate a bit of it into our lives…
white boys who respond to criticism of racism and sexism by ominously saying that there are ‘bigger problems’ scare me. like what is this big secret problem and why won’t anyone tell me about it? are we going to be eaten alive by mutant sharks? are oranges secretly poisoning us? who knows. the white boys, apparently.